A Cautionary Tale for Shabbat

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The other day, Tzsvi Fishman published on his blog a giant pro-aliyah rant in which he first accuses everyone who does not immediately drop everything and make aliyah at once of cowardice, and then proceeds to demolish his own case by claiming that waving orange ribbons and hiding from the cops at Homesh constitutes the Pinchas-like struggle to overthrow the illegitimate erev rav regime called for by The Holy Martyr Rebbe Meir Kahane (z”l) toward the end of his career.  In support of this, he extensively quotes “Or HaRayon”, a book compiled from R. Kahane’s unpublished writings and ghost-published after his death by his close associates in an effort to present their idea of the Martyr Rebbe’s ideology.  Moreover, most of the particular passages Fishman quotes were written in the early 5740s and were tied to R. Kahane’s belief that redemption “at once” could be brought by revolution before the expiration of the forty-year “divine credit” of miracles that led to the creation and temporary strengthening of the State of Israel despite the wickedness of its rulers.  A few of the latter passages were written just before R. Kahane’s turn toward Medinat Yehudah as the solution to the problem still facing us today.  Obviously, the forty-year limit is long past.  Its end was marked by the beginning of the Oslo Process, signaling a definitive commitment to redemption “in its time” or else the destruction of Israel and a reset in the process of redemption back to square one.   At the end of his life, R. Kahane himself was committed to Medinat Yehudah, so much so that his last speech was given before the provisional banner of Medinat Yehudah.

At any rate, this is not very important.  What IS important is to ignore the kind of ranting Fishman indulges in on almost a daily basis.  Those who take Fishman and others like him seriously do a disservice to themselves, and more importantly, waste a valuable, scarce set of resources that will be needed in good time, namely their lives, health and money.  To explain why, I will resort to the ancient rabbinical method, and tell you a tale to think about over Shabbat.  So here is how it goes:

Not long ago, in a place not very far away, Flatbush to be precise, there lived a young man named Ephraim Khantsis.  He was not unintelligent and quite brave in the fashion of young men who think themselves immortal.  Young Ephraim had been born in the Ukraine, but his family had emigrated to America when he was quite young and so he had never known what it is like to live in a totalitarian society.  All his life he had spent in America and was thus used to the inviolate nature of basic freedoms and human rights enshrined in the American constitution.  So used was he to these freedoms, that he could not even imagine a society in which they would not exist, a society in which there was no freedom of speech, nor free elections, nor a free press, nor a right to keep and bear arms.  He knew that such societies could exist, intellectually, but he could not even imagine how they function.

In due course, young Ephraim grew up and understood that a Jew had no place living under goyshe rule.  Naturally, he became a Kahanist, as is the fashion of all decent Jewish young men aged between sixteen and thirty or so.  Indeed it is fair to say that if a young Jewish man is not a Kahanist by twenty, he has no Jewish heart.  Of course, if he is still a Kahanist by thirty, he has other problems.  But young Ephraim was still too young to know this.

As a young Kahanist, Ephraim did all the usual Kahanist things.  He read Kahane books, he hung out at Kahanist websites, he communicated with Kahanist activists.  In due course, he became committed to making aliyah and helping to build a Torah State in Eretz Yisrael.  Of course, he had little idea how to do this, but he assumed that if he just got to Israel and went to Yosh, he would find others who would help him and guide him, and all would be well.

As soon as he graduated from SUNY Stony Brook with his degree in Computer Science, young Ephraim got on a plane to Ben Gurion airport.  When he got off the plane in Lod, he enrolled in Machon Meir and made his way to Kfar Tapuach, hoping to lend a hand to the building of a Torah State.  There, he linked up with all the usual suspects.  Yekutiel Guzovsky, David HaIvri, Baruch Marzel, all the tired old men who represent the sad spectacle that is modern-day Kahanism in Israel.

But, you see, no one, not the Kahanist websites, not the Kahanist “leaders” and certainly not blogs like Fishman’s, educated young Ephraim on the reality of the situation in Eretz Yisrael.  All his life, he had lived in a democracy.  All his life he had been used to human rights, such as freedom of speech, being inviolate.  All his life he had been used to the idea that if enough people just get together and demand stuff, the powers that be will seek to accommodate them for fear of losing their votes.  He thought that Israel was a democracy, too.  Everyone had told him this.  Heck, there are even elections and multiple political parties that keep switching the number of seats in the Knesset.  Politicians get indicted for corruption on a routine basis, there is a lively press hotly debating all kinds of topics…  At first glance, it looked a lot like America, only smaller and louder.  Why would he think differently?

No one told young Ephraim that Israel is a totalitarian police state about as free and democratic as Brezhnev’s USSR.  No one told him that in Israel there is no freedom of speech, human rights are protected only for those who have the right protektsia, elections are rigged in advance, all electronic communications are monitored by the secret police, the press can discuss in a lively fashion only those things permitted by the powers that be, corruption indictments have nothing to do with actual corruption, or even evidence, and the average citizen cannot take a step into the bushes to relieve himself without a Shabak snitch running to tell the powers that be all about it.  No one told him that the people he hung out with live under a microscope.  No one told him that the very act of saying hello to them lands one on a secret police watchlist.  No one told him that they are surrounded by snitches on all sides and that some of them are forced to snitch on their own comrades for fear of their own lives and the lives of those whom they love.  No one told him that the vast majority of Jews in Eretz Yisrael worship the State of Israel as an idol no different in nature from the Golden Calf, but far more dangerous in substance.  No one told him that the people who should be busy trying to change this sad state of affairs by advocating Jewish independence and Jewish self-sufficiency are instead busy running internet cafes, or writing blogs to urge ignorant young men like Ephraim to make aliyah, or taking nature hikes, or trying to increase their number of Knesset seats from two to three.

The moment young Ephraim opened his mouth and started telling others what he believed, a snitch in Tapuach ran to tell the Shabak.  The mamlachti whores whom he mistook for rabbis at Machon Meir demanded that he change his views or else.  The Shabak made threats and ordered him to stay out of Yosh.  But young Ephraim lacked the basic knowledge to understand what it all meant.  He proudly stood his ground.  He refused to change his views because his views were right.  He refused to recant his statements because he had spoken the truth and, in the democratic society he was used to living in, no one is punished for merely speaking his mind.  He refused to stay out of Yosh because, in a democratic society, the police cannot simply ban a man from half the country on a whim, so he could not comprehend how such an “order” could even exist, much less be legally enforced.

And no one, not the tired old men he was hanging around with, not his Tapuach peers, not his classmates at Machon Meir, NO ONE took the trouble to educate young Ephraim as to the kind of society he was really living in.  First of all, they did not know him and therefore did not care about him.  Second, there was the language barrier.  But third and most important of all, in order to tell Ephraim the Truth, they first have to admit the Truth to themselves.  And they cannot do it, because the Truth imposes upon them obligations they are simply unwilling to fulfill.

And so Ephraim was simply arrested by the Shabak and thrown into Eshel prison without charge or trial.  In a totalitarian police state, the secret police can do anything.  After all, unlike in democratic societies, in a totalitarian police state like Israel, there is no law.  There is only the appearance of legality to paper over the reality of arbitrary naked force lurking just below the surface.  The “law” guarantees all kinds of freedoms in Israel, just like it did in the USSR and still does in Syria, Iran, North Korea, Zimbawe or any other similar country.  But only children and naïve immigrants who do not know any better would actually believe what the “law” says.  In actuality, the secret police need only point a finger, write a memo, and a man disappears into the gulag.  If he is lucky, he might make it out.  If he is unlucky, he might have an “accident”, “die of disease” or be “shot while attempting to escape”.  Or he might just rot away in some dungeon forever, and never again see the light of day.  In Israel, the façade is prettier than in Zimbabwe or North Korea, and the authorities are more restrained by the need to maintain the façade, but only when the cameras are watching.  When there are no cameras watching, Israel might as well be Zimbabwe.

Now, once he was arrested, Ephraim did all the right, good and noble things a proper Jew is supposed to do when arrested by the Israelis.  He refused to acknowledge their authority to arrest him.  He refused to talk to them.  He refused to recognize the legitimacy of their “courts” or their “law”.  He refused, in short, to be treated as anything other than what he was, that being a prisoner of war seized arbitrarily and illegally by a foreign force illegitimately occupying his country.

But then a funny thing happened.  While Ephraim was bravely defying the Israeli occupier, the other Jews in the Holy Land did… absolutely nothing.  No one protested on his behalf.  No one sprayed graffiti on buildings or pasted posters with his face on every street corner, demanding his freedom.  No one took Israeli soldiers hostage to exchange for him.  No one blew up border cops or ambushed policemen to avenge his illegal detention.  He was utterly alone.  No one was actually struggling to build a Torah State.  The few who should have been busy inspiring the struggle were busy with nonsense.  The many who should have been struggling were never inspired.  And the few brave heroes willing to sacrifice their lives to actually do battle with the regime as urban guerrillas would not do so for him, because they did not know him and he was not one of them.  And thus his noble defiance was utterly useless.

In a way, Ephraim Khantsis was lucky.  Unlike numerous underage girls at Amona, he wasn’t sexually assaulted.  Unlike Yaakov Teitel, he was not tortured to within an inch of his life, driven insane and forced to confess to every unsolved police case since the shooting of Arlosoff.  Unlike Chaim Perlman, he was not subjected to strappado.  Unlike Rav Binyamin Kahane (z”l), he was not murdered.  In the end, he was simply deported back to America.  One hopes that he is wiser for the experience.

The story of Ephraim Khantsis, dear reader, is a cautionary tale about the utility of new American olim at this stage of the national liberation struggle.  Unless you speak good Hebrew, can blend into Israeli society, have good connections in Eretz Yisrael and thus many places to hide from the enemy, and can pass for an Israeli at need, you are of no use whatsoever in Eretz Yisrael.  All you are going to do is get yourself arrested and deported if you are lucky.  If you are unlucky, the Shabak will quietly murder you.  And no one will care.

If you are an American Jew who wants to make a difference, do not listen to the aliyah rants of Tzvi Fishman and his ilk.  Your body is not needed in Eretz Yisrael.  Today, what is needed is your time, your voice, your money and your political support.  The idea of Medinat Yehudah must spread and you must help to spread it.  Once the idea spreads far enough, there will be a national liberation struggle.  During the coming struggle, Jewish communities in Yosh will need funding.  Jewish self-defense organizations will need weapons.  Medinat Yehudah activists struggling in Eretz Yisrael will need equipment, technical aid and moral support.  Even today, though most of the money that goes to Yosh is simply wasted, organizations like the Central Fund funnel millions of dollars to worthwhile projects.

When the time comes and there is a Stage One transition, you might be useful as a fundraiser in America or as a participant in the War of Symbols in Israel.  When there is a Stage Two transition, you will be useful as both a fundraiser and, if you wish it, a fighter.  When the War of Independence begins in earnest, all who want to fight will have ample opportunity to do so.  Until then, have patience.  Advocate.  Spread the word.  Gather skills.  Learn Hebrew.  Save money.  Wait.  And ignore the aliyah rants.  That is all you can do.

Shabbat Shalom

10 Elul, 5770

The other day, Tzsvi Fishman published on his blog [http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/4#4327] a giant pro-aliyah rant in which he first accuses everyone who does not immediately drop everything and make aliyah immediately of cowardice, and then proceeds to demolish his own case by claiming that waving orange ribbons and hiding from the cops at Homesh constitutes the Pinchas-like struggle to overthrow the illegitimate erev rav regime called for by The Holy Martyr Rebbe Meir Kahane (z”l) toward the end of his career.  In support of this, he extensively quotes “Or haRayon”, a book compiled from R. Kahane’s unpublished writings and ghost-published after his death by his close associates in an effort to present their idea of the Martyr Rebbe’s ideology.  Moreover, most of the particular passages Fishman quotes were written in the early 5700s and were tied to R. Kahane’s belief that redemption “at once” could be brought by revolution before the expiration of the forty-year “divine credit” of miracles that led to the creation and temporary strengthening of the State of Israel despite the wickedness of its rulers.  A few of the latter passages were written just before R. Kahane’s turn toward Medinat Yehudah as the solution to the problem still facing us today.  Obviously, the forty-year limit is long past.  Its end was marked by the beginning of the Oslo Process, signaling a definitive commitment to redemption “in its time” or else the destruction of Israel and a reset in the process of redemption back to square one.   At the end of his life, R. Kahane himself was committed to Medinat Yehudah, so much so that his last speech was given before the provisional banner of Medinat Yehudah.

At any rate, this is not very important.  What IS important is to ignore the kind of ranting Fishman indulges in on almost a daily basis.  Those who take Fishman and others like him seriously do a disservice to themselves, and more importantly, waste a valuable, scarce set of resources that will be needed in good time, namely their lives, health and money.  To explain why, I will resort to the ancient rabbinical method, and tell you a tale to think about over Shabbat.  So here is how it goes:

Not long ago, in a place not very far away, Flatbush to be precise, there lived a young man named Ephraim Khantsis.  He was not unintelligent and quite brave in the fashion of young men who think themselves immortal.  Young Ephraim had been born in the Ukraine, but his family had emigrated to America when he was quite young and so he had never known what it is like to live in a totalitarian society.  All his life he had spent in America and was thus used to the inviolate nature of basic freedoms and human rights enshrined in the American constitution.  So used was he to these freedoms, that he could not even imagine a society in which they would not exist, a society in which there was no freedom of speech, nor free elections, nor a free press, nor a right to keep and bear arms.  He knew that such societies could exist, intellectually, but he could not even imagine how they function.

In due course, young Ephraim grew up and understood that a Jew had no place living under goyshe rule.  Naturally, he became a Kahanist, as is the fashion of all decent Jewish young men aged between sixteen and thirty or so.  Indeed it is fair to say that if a young Jewish man is not a Kahanist by twenty, he has no Jewish heart.  Of course, if he is still a Kahanist by thirty, he has other problems.  But young Ephraim was still too young to know this.

As a young Kahanist, Ephraim did all the usual Kahanist things.  He read Kahane books, he hung out at Kahanist websites, he communicated with Kahanist activists.  In due course, he became committed to making aliyah and helping to build a Torah State in Eretz Yisrael.  Of course, he had little idea how to do this, but he assumed that if he just got to Israel and went to Yosh, he would find others who would help him and guide him, and all would be well.

As soon as he graduated from SUNY Stony Brook with his degree in Computer Science, young Ephraim got on a plane to Ben Gurion airport.  When he got off the plane in Lod, he enrolled in Machon Meir and made his way to Kfar Tapuach, hoping to lend a hand to the building of a Torah State.  There, he linked up with all the usual suspects.  Yekutiel Guzovsky, David HaIvri, Baruch Marzel, all the tired old men who represent the sad spectacle that is modern-day Kahanism in Israel.

But, you see, no one, not the Kahanist websites, not the Kahanist “leaders” and certainly not blogs like Fishman’s, educated young Ephraim on the reality of the situation in Eretz Yisrael.  All his life, he had lived in a democracy.  All his life he had been used to human rights, such as freedom of speech, being inviolate.  All his life he had been used to the idea that if enough people just get together and demand stuff, the powers that be will seek to accommodate them for fear of losing their votes.  He thought that Israel was a democracy, too.  Everyone had told him this.  Why would he think differently?

No one told young Ephraim that Israel is a totalitarian police state about as free and democratic as Brezhnev’s USSR.  No one told him that in Israel there is no freedom of speech, human rights are protected only for those who have the right protektsia, elections are rigged in advance, all electronic communications are monitored by the secret police and the average citizen cannot take a step into the bushes to relieve himself without a Shabak snitch running to tell the powers that be all about it.  No one told him that the people he hung out with live under a microscope.  No one told him that the very act of saying hello to them lands one on a secret police watchlist.  No one told him that they are surrounded by snitches on all sides and that some of them are forced to snitch on their own comrades for fear of their own lives and the lives of those whom they love.  No one told him that the vast majority of Jews in Eretz Yisrael worship the State of Israel as an idol no different in nature from the Golden Calf, but far more dangerous in substance.  No one told him that the people who should be busy trying to change this sad state of affairs by advocating Jewish independence and Jewish self-sufficiency are instead busy running internet cafes, or writing blogs to urge ignorant young men like Ephraim to make aliyah, or taking nature hikes, or trying to increase their number of Knesset seats from two to three.

The moment young Ephraim opened his mouth and started telling others what he believed, a snitch in Tapuach ran to tell the Shabak.  The mamlachti whores whom he mistook for rabbis at Machon Meir demanded that he change his views or else.  The Shabak made threats and ordered him to stay out of Yosh.  But young Ephraim lacked the basic knowledge to understand what it all meant.  He proudly stood his ground.  He refused to change his views because his views were right.  He refused to recant his statements because he had spoken the truth and, in the democratic society he was used to living in, no one is punished for merely speaking his mind.  He refused to stay out of Yosh because, in a democratic society, the police cannot simply ban a man from half the country on a whim, so he could not comprehend how such an “order” could even exist, much less be legally enforced.

And no one, not the tired old men he was hanging around with, not his Tapuach peers, not his classmates at Machon Meir, NO ONE took the trouble to educate young Ephraim as to the kind of society he was really living in.  First of all, they did not know him and therefore did not care about him.  Second, there was the language barrier.  But third and most important of all, in order to tell Ephraim the Truth, they first have to admit the Truth to themselves.  And they cannot do it, because the Truth imposes upon them obligations they are simply unwilling to fulfill.

And so Ephraim was simply arrested by the Shabak and thrown into Eshel prison without charge or trial.  In a totalitarian police state, the secret police can do anything.  After all, unlike in democratic societies, in a totalitarian police state like Israel, there is no law.  There is only the appearance of legality to paper over the reality of arbitrary naked force lurking just below the surface.  The “law” guarantees all kinds of freedoms in Israel, just like it did in the USSR and still does in Syria, Iran, North Korea or Zimbawe or any other similar country.  But only children and naïve immigrants who do not know any better would actually believe what the “law” says.  In actuality, the secret police need only point a finger, write a memo, and a man disappears into the gulag.  If he is lucky, he might make it out.  If he is unlucky, he might have an “accident”, “die of disease” or be “shot while attempting to escape”.  Or he might just rot away in some dungeon forever, and never again see the light of day.  In Israel, the façade is prettier than in Zimbabwe or North Korea, and the authorities are more restrained by the need to maintain the façade, but only when the cameras are watching.  When there are no cameras watching, Israel might as well be Zimbabwe.

Now, once he was arrested, Ephraim did all the right, good and noble things a proper Jew is supposed to do when arrested by the Israelis.  He refused to acknowledge their authority to arrest him.  He refused to talk to them.  He refused to recognize the legitimacy of their “courts” or their “law”.  He refused, in short, to be treated as anything other than what he was, that being a prisoner of war seized arbitrarily and illegally by a foreign force illegitimately occupying his country.

But then a funny thing happened.  While Ephraim was bravely defying the Israeli occupier, the other Jews in the Holy Land did… absolutely nothing.  No one protested on his behalf.  No one sprayed graffiti on buildings or pasted posters with his face on every street corner, demanding his freedom.  No one took Israeli soldiers hostage to exchange for him.  No one blew up border cops or ambushed policemen to avenge his illegal detention.  He was utterly alone.  No one was actually struggling to build a Torah State.  The few who should have been busy inspiring the struggle were busy with nonsense.  The many who should have been struggling were never inspired.  And the few brave heroes willing to sacrifice their lives to actually do battle with the regime as urban guerrillas would not do so for him, because they did not know him and he was not one of them.  And thus his noble defiance was utterly useless.

In a way, Ephraim Khantsis was lucky.  Unlike numerous underage girls at Amona, he was neither raped nor sexually assaulted.  Unlike Yaakov Teitel, he was not tortured to within an inch of his life, driven insane and forced to confess to every unsolved police case since the shooting of Arlosoff.  Unlike Chaim Perlman, he was not subjected to strappado.  Unlike Rav Binyamin Kahane (z”l), he was not murdered.  In the end, he was simply deported back to America.  One hopes that he is wiser for the experience.

The story of Ephraim Khantsis, dear reader, is a cautionary tale about the utility of new American olim at this stage of the national liberation struggle.  Unless you speak good Hebrew, can blend into Israeli society, have good connections in Eretz Yisrael and thus many places to hide from the enemy, and can pass for an Israeli at need, you are of no use whatsoever in Eretz Yisrael.  All you are going to do is get yourself arrested and deported if you are lucky.  If you are unlucky, the Shabak will quietly murder you.  And no one will care.

If you are an American Jew who wants to make a difference, do not listen to the aliyah rants of Tzvi Fishman and his ilk.  Your body is not needed in Eretz Yisrael.  Today, what is needed is your time, your voice, your money and your political support.  The idea of Medinat Yehudah must spread and you must help to spread it.  Once the idea spreads far enough, there will be a national liberation struggle.  During the coming struggle, Jewish communities in Yosh will need funding.  Jewish self-defense organizations will need weapons.  Medinat Yehudah activists struggling in Eretz Yisrael will need equipment, technical aid and moral support.  Even today, though most of the money that goes to Yosh is simply wasted, organizations like the Central Fund funnel millions of dollars to worthwhile projects.

When the time comes and there is a Stage One transition, you might be useful as a fundraiser in America or as a participant in the War of Symbols in Israel.  When there is a Stage Two transition, you will be useful as both a fundraiser and, if you wish it, a fighter.  When the War of Independence begins in earnest, all who want to fight will have ample opportunity to do so.  Until then, have patience.  Advocate.  Spread the word.  Gather skills.  Learn Hebrew.  Save money.  Wait.  And ignore the aliyah rants.  That is all you can do.

Shabbat Shalom

10 Elul, 5770

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13 Responses to “A Cautionary Tale for Shabbat”

  1. Columnist Says:

    http://www.revleft.com/vb/situation-getting-dire-t137941/index2.html

    “We’ve heard it all before – neonazis going on about Judaism in much the same way as your group EDL now go about demonising Islam.
    Judaism is a total belief system. Christianity is a total belief system. So what if they are belief systems?

    Your group EDL advocates a proto-fascist street-response against all Muslims in Britain. That’s one of the issues. We’ll come to the others later.

    As for your Kahanist JDL USA friends whom EDL reached out to as early as September 2009, they are a proscribed terrorist group in both USA and Israel, so EDL’s involvement with them leaves EDL wide open to just claims that EDL associates with a known terrorist group that has been proscribed in ISRAEL, rendering all EDL claims that EDL supports Israel invalid.

    EDL now supports some real hardline religious wingnuts who support a single-state, continuation of settlement building and this is contradiction to the recent motion at the Zionist Congress, who voted for a two-state solution and a full settlement-building freeze.

    SO much for being generally ZIONIST. The claim to be pro-Israel and pro-Zionist are false. The people you aligned with are against a two-state solution and pro-continued settlement expansion.

    EDL willingly sought out and linked itself to hardline religious right-wing extremists. The same type of extremists that EDL leaders say they’re against.
    This renders the claim that EDL are against extremists invalid.

    Other important issues beside the issue of EDL cosying up to rightwing religious extremists and a proscribed terrorist organisation are the blatent lie that EDL is a single-issue organisation.

    It is most defnitely not a single-issue organisation, and we should discuss the EDL’s claim to be a single-issue group as openly as possible, so that EDL members can read what we write. “

  2. Shiloh Says:

    So ‘Vienna Mike’, in todays wonderful repeat of Jewish history around the time before the destruction of our Temple, how
    does one differentiate between one who is sincere in his path and that of agent provacateur?

    There is only one factor missing, the trump card, namely haShem. If we ignore that, it’s just another religious gig.

    In your previous article, why are you looking for a Dati Leumi? What about a Karaite? What about one who has a story like that of Moshe? Maybe there will be one who does not believe that the current form of what we call normative Judaism is correct, and that haShem will be behind him. Just a thought.

    At any rate, the generation of face of a dog is an injustice of the reality here. Who would have imagined a generation such as this? I guess the rabbis had it right that they hoped they would not be alive before the geulah. Now we see why.

    Shabbat Shalom

  3. Malka Says:

    Wonderful article. I only wish more of Tzvi’s readers would actually read your work here, rather than the small snippets in comments Arutz Sheva permits you to post.

    Reading Arutz Sheva has left me with mixed views of the state of Israel–it’s a horrible police state and frequent target of terrorists and a beautiful, modern stste.

    It’s hard to know which impression is true, but I lean towards the former. I wish it were the holy place I grew up reading about in the bible:(

    I rarely read Tzvi’s blog. Too text heavy and even my simple comments are censored out. Don’t the bloggers and powers that be know that all of the censorship on a blog sends a powerful message? Go to Israel, fail to follow the party line and you’ll get smacked–figuratively or literally–in the teeth.

    And that they are under the government’s thumb???

    Shabbat Shalom and keep up the excellent writing and fight.

  4. JEOD Says:

    Please remember, M’dinat means din l’met.

    I prefer, Yishuv Eretz Yisrael.

    Remember, the chareidi are the other side of your coin – they, too, believe the secular zionist government will stumble and fall, to be replaced (immediately and without interruption if we merit) by one led by Moshiach ben Yosef – who will surely give Esav the correct finger!

  5. Sassover Says:

    “Indeed it is fair to say that if a young Jewish man is not a Kahanist by twenty, he has no Jewish heart. Of course, if he is still a Kahanist by thirty, he has other problems. ”

    Was wondering what “other problems” you refer to? Is it related to persecution or something else? Please elaborate.

  6. Sassover Says:

    What the hell , what’s with all the nuts coming here now with their nutty comments? We see a messianic who puts capital letters in certain places like the xtians do and is rambling like a lunatic about who knows what, and another guy thinks a man is going to fall from the sky and save us all if only some haredim daven harder and learn an extra daf. Guess it’s good to get discussion going here, but can we please have reasonable discussion?

  7. Vienna Mike Says:

    Columnist: Very amusing. The idiot leftist of course has no idea what he is talking about. Christianity is NOT a Total Belief System. The Christian is urged, after all, to render unto Caesar. Judaism and Islam are indeed both Total Belief Systems. The difference, and this is crucial, is what they believe. Islam commands its followers to conquer the Earth, exterminate the Jews, enslave all non-Moslems and rule the entire world according to Shariah for the greater glory of Allah. Judaism commands its adherents to conquer a very specifically defined area in the Middle East, expel from it all who do not wish to live according to the Word of G-d and establish within this relatively small territory a model society which the entire would would envy and wish to emulate, thus bringing the entire world to believe in and worship G-d BY MEANS OF PERSONAL EXAMPLE AND SWEET REASON. Jews are expressly forbidden to force Judaism upon anyone by the sword, or even by indirect inducements of any kind. Nor does Judaism believe that gentiles will necessarily give up their religions when they come to worship G-d in the end days. There is a very strong current of opinion that believes that the gentile religions will eventually come to resemble a radical Dual Covenant Christianity, in which Jesus is seen not as deity but as intermediary through which one can reach the true deity more easily. Such a thing is prohibited for Jews, who must address G-d directly, but the gentiles can certainly set up for themselves an intermediary.

    The JDL are good Jews. Therefore, it is natural for them to want the same thing that EDL wants — a British Britain, an American America and a Jewish Israel. It is the assimilationist pseudo-Jewish left that fights against crosses and manger scenes in public squares on Christmas, Christian prayer in public schools and so forth. The real Jew knows full well that America is NOT his home, that he should never get too comfortable in it and that the Lord having so set up the world that nature abhors a vacuum, the removal of the churches and the crosses will bring not multicultural paradise but their replacement with minarets and Islamic flags at the worst and pogroms at the best. It is for this reason that Irv Rubin’s splinter faction of the JDL was the first group in America to attempt a response to 9/11.

    Shiloh: Stop being ridiculous. Those who are not Torah-true Jews need not apply. The Haredim have long ago proven that they are unable to run anything more sophisticated than a small ghetto, and that very badly. For proof, you need look no further than the Slifkin affair and the mess with banning Lipa from Madison Square Garden, both cases in which the leaders of the Haredi world showed themselves to be… in the spirit of the season let’s say ill advised and ill informed even in the areas in which they are supposed to be expert. Therefore, it is the Dati Leumi or the Torah U’Mada crowd, or nothing.

    Malka: The answer of course is that it is, kind of, both. Remember, the Land is precious and beautiful and holy. Eretz Yisrael is the best place on Earth and, of course, the sole place where a Jew belongs. It is unfortunate that the Land is currently divided between a series of Amalekite squatter camps and a tiny Jewish ghetto ruled over by a gang of corrupt, murderous erev rav. Yes, everyone in the ghetto knows that the rulers are erev rav and everyone is afraid of them. But the erev rav are deeply divided among themselves and occupy most of their time gnawing at each others throats over power and money. Agreement and common purpose among them is generally accidental and short lasting, even in response to mortal threats. There is no orderly totalitarian structure like in the old USSR. Instead, there is a snake pit of competing power centers and webs of influence, all of it powered by corruption and theft on a truly African scale. Thus, for example, while election outcomes are decided in advance, it is not by some Barry Chamish fantasy of evil plotters sitting down in a smoke-filled room, but by the chaotic mechanism of electoral fraud and crude ballot box stuffing, with the winner being the bunch of erev rav most skillful at obtaining access, throwing around large wads of money, placing boxes of fake ballots among the real ones, getting the cemeteries to vote and otherwise corrupting the electoral in every conceivable way. Given the unstable and self-destructive nature of the system, there is great hope yet, with the help of Hashem, for a happy ending to the whole tragicomic farce. May we merit to see the happy ending soon, by the grace of Hashem.

    JEOD: Medinat can also mean “Din Emet”. The missing Aleph is Emunah, to replace the Lamed you forcibly insert to represent the soured milk of erev rav conjurers. The key, therefore, is to remove the shaky Lamed from power and replace it with the steady Aleph. This site is about the means to do so.

    Sassover: Persecution is not the problem. Lack of coherent vision IS. There is no coherent goal in modern Kahanism, nor a clear, REALISTIC vision of how this goal is to be reached. The Kahanists establish outposts, but they do this for its own sake, without any higher purpose but to sit in tents until the Army evicts them. They stab the occasional Arab day laborer, but they never bother to learn and apply the basic principles of guerrilla warfare and so their actions never rise above the level of petty crime and their movement is riddled with informants. In short, the Martyr Rebbe is a great inspiration, but his remaining followers are, shall we say, limited.

    The great tragic flaw of the Martyr Rebbe (z”l) was that he never gave much thought to his own succession. His movement was a one-man show, organized according to the Leader Principle, in the manner of the enemy movements he infiltrated in his turbulent youth. The problem with such movements is that when you cut off the head, the body dies. The squabbling midgets who have sought to replace the towering giant have exhausted themselves in petty squabbles over which one of them should be the “real leader” and which of their petty splinter factions is the “real Kach” or the “real JDL” or what have you. Instead of developing a collective leadership model and attempting to carry forward a coherent vision that logically develops from the evolution of the Martyr Rebbe’s ideas, they have made themselves ridiculous, and sometimes repugnant, by hurling invective at one another, sicking pet twenty-three-year-old knuckleheads on one another and even, chas ve sholom, outing each other to the authorities and so forth. To date, the only effective leaders to come out of the Kahanist milieu are all people who left the movement — Avigdor Liberman, Shmuel Sackett, etc. Their solutions may be all wrong, but at least they are being somewhat effective in trying to implement them. This is a damning indictment of modern Kahanism.

    Believe it or not, I have great respect for the sacrifices made by the Kahanist Old Guard under the leadership of the Martyr Rebbe (z”l). But they are ALL followers, not leaders. Without a Leader, they are a spectacle, not a movement.

    The problem is that we cannot have a movement dependent on a single Leader. The Israelis will simply kill such a leader and that will be the end of the movement. Again. What we need instead is a coherent ALTERNATIVE IDEOLOGY and an emergent COLLECTIVE leadership built around numerous energetic young people who politely or not so politely shove the alter kakers and their petty alter kaker squabbles aside into the nursing home to play bingo and form a united front in the name of a common goal. As far as I am concerned, Medinat Yehudah is that goal.

  8. Larry Says:

    Impressive, Mike. Malka, Mike is right – it is both. Chaim Pearlman proves it, so does Yerushalayim and much more.

    Mike, I too am skeptical of the one-conspiracy-theory-fits all favored by Barry C, Dan (Jerusalem) and, at times, Tamar. Question, then, were the Kahanes, father and son, murdered by Arabs without other sponsorship, or not?

    Thanks in advance.

  9. Shiloh Says:

    Vienna Mike, being a True Torah Jew is not one who follows rabbinical ‘Judaism’. He follows the Torah, not the traditions of men that contradict the Torah. This is ridiculous at best. HaShem will be our answer and send us who we need, not what we want, nor what the Rambam said. Frankly, you may personally be distressed by haShems decision when He reveals it along with the majority of ultra Orthodox, Dati Leumi, less so, but uncomfortable. Even the late Rav Kaduri realized this fact. You laugh and dismiss this. Don’t rush to judgement of those matters that you are not aware of.

    I agree with what you said about the haredim, I am around them here in Israel daily. Too close to them to be comfortable. The Dati Leumi would be a wiser choice, but that is still within rabbinical judaism. All I am trying to say to you is that not to dismiss haShem’s choice which may not be labeled as such. I think closer to the Dati Leumi, certainly not Haredi.

    The bottom line is that it is out of our hands today, actually it was out of our hands for several years now. We will get our Torah state, I believe very shortly actually, just not the one the ‘religionists’ envision in whole. As far as I am concerned we have many errors that need to be corrected within what we call normative judaism. Having leaders that follow those errors is not a Torah True state. Once corrected, we will acheive that goal. But the current control of the Erev Rav within ‘legitimate’ judaism will prevent those needed corrections.

    To attempt to do what you are saying is suicide and frankly it’s the ego speaking. The geulah is too close now and speaking to some, frankly very knowledgeable rabbi’s who would be classified as Dati Leumi, even they know and state it’s out of our hands and to let the movie finish. True, it’s hard to watch what’s happening without thinking that we may be able to help. We can do a small part, but the big picture is left to haShem now. The answer is here before the problem existed. Most are simply unaware, possibly yourself too.

    In the end of days, there won’t be false ‘religions’ left, the correction will be complete. They will disappear like dust. Saying that they will still exist is simply because one must still justify the way’s of men, not that of haShem. A huge difference.

  10. Vienna Mike Says:

    Yes, Shiloh, let’s have Judaism without rabbis. Coming soon: airlines without pilots, hospitals without doctors, courts without lawyers…

    Proof positive of the ridiculousness of your position is that you reference rabbinical authority even while denying its validity. Stop with this childish apikorsut. Yes, we have problems with corrupt, incompetent, etc, etc, rabbis. This is not a call for abandoning all reason. It is call for long-overdue housecleaning. The rabbis are and have always been our lawyers, judges and law professors. This is their proper niche. Problems arise when foolish rabbis overstep their bounds (e.g. by claiming infallibility or denying science) or when foolish laypersons drag rabbinical authority into a sphere where it does not belong (e.g. by demanding rabbinical guidance on everyday issues they can decide on their own).

    As for religion, you are wrong as wrong can be. Clearly, the whole world will not convert to Judaism. Therefore, the non-Jews will have their various forms of Noahide worship. The FALSE religions will disappear. The true religions, all of them acknowledging the primacy and authority of the Holy Torah, will replace them.

    P.S. The Haredim are obviously rubbing off on you, since you believe that sitting on your arse and waiting for a miracle will do anything except get you killed in a pogrom.

  11. Malka Says:

    Shiloh, I don’t mean to be nasty but on another blog haven’t you said or at least strongly implied that you are a messianic Jew? If you’re the same person, you repeatedly condemn “rabbinic Judaism.”

    What Mike wrote about rabbis is correct.

    *****

    A a general comment not directed at anyone but I sometimes feel that Jews place too much emphasis on moshiach as the only source of survival. We have the Torah. They’re were kings who followed Hashem’s advice to overcome enemies. Two things stand out in my mind–getting idols off the temple mount, and fighting. Rarely can I recall Hashem saying to just trust Him. Action was always required–Moshe going to pharoah, Esther going to the king, after fasting, Elijah with his arrows (though he should have fired all of them).

    I have limited Torah knowledge but as I said, these things stick out in my mind.

    I can’t imagine what Hashem would think about people waiting for moshiach as Jews are dying at the hands of their enemies, not learning from what the Torah says about fighting and creating a Jewish state.

    Just two cents here.

  12. Shiloh Says:

    Vienna Mike, if you are so sure of your stance, let’s read about your funeral in the local paper, start the game you harp about. The bottom line is that the facts on the ground are too powerful to be stopped by a group of Jews. The reality is we don’t follow the Torah. We follow men and their errors. If one believes that the Talmud is divine and the authors of the 5th century are infallible, don’t question why we are in such troubles today, or for the last 2000 years for that fact. There is nothing wrong with interpreting the Torah, it’s only a problem when you stray from it. I certainly believe that the rabbi’s have strayed immensly, thus why our punishment continues. You are certainly free to believe as you wish as you will answer to the Creator alone, so will all of us.

    I am not opposed to ‘rabbi’s’ as being leaders. I am opposed to what they have made of the Torah. It must be cleaned up and it will be. It’s just not what you have been led into thinking. There are many factors that you currently cannot see. Sadly though, you will use ad hominem slander as a defence as a replacement.

    The shabbak today is watching every move of a ‘settler’ today. It for me is quite suprising how ‘freely’ you speak about your plans for the Jewish state and it’s current leaders. Truly, it speaks of a shabbak. Since you believe your well thought out plan would be effective in the right instance, in reality the shabbak would take you down or atleast give you a medical exam (I know many who where much less vocal then yourself and they got ‘shabbaked’). Since they don’t do anything to you, either your plan is ineffective in totality or you are one of the plants. The latter is most logical. Seeing your arguments against me shows that even further.

    ‘Rabbi’s’ have only existed since around 200 BCE. Stateing otherwise is a complete fabrication.

    Religion is a fabrication of men, designed to teach the world about a Creator. Since the ‘erev rav’ kept the teachings to themselves, haShem had to create situations to teach the rest of the world about Himself. The earliest documented source of B’nei Noach was actually in, what you would refer to as the ‘Book of Acts’ in the new testament. How funny one quotes without knowing the true source. It was used then as a starting point for non-Jews to interact with the Jewish community to begin to learn Torah. But it was not ‘a religion’. At the time it was written, the goyim where not allowed to interact with the Jewish community. Even then, the goyim where to live by the Torah, but the wicked erev rav refused to teach it. A group of Torah observant Jews decided to bring the Torah to the goyim after the death of it’s Ribi. In the end, the world will follow the Holy Torah, thus nulifying all religion. One does not have to be a Jew to live by the Torah. That’s a teaching of the Erev Rav.

    Malka, you are not being nasty but speaking loshon hara just as did the drech of prior to the destructiion of the second Temple. I believe identically to that of the late Rabbi Mordechi Eliyahu of who the historical Jew was so your comments are highly ill informed. Him, I respect, though I disagree with his stance of a halachic state, only so in that the current halachot are highly corrupted. Would you make the same statement about him because he is aware of things to big for most to comprehend. You cannot discern between the actual historical Ribi from 2000 years ago and the roman pagan counterfeit lie named jesus. You should attempt to find out the actual historical facts and then decide. Not from the redacted Talmud by Rashi, nor the slanderous rabbi’s, and especially not the ‘new testament’. I defend who the guy was as a historical figure a Torah observant Jew, you react believing that I follow something I don’t. Learn before you slander him or myself. Such arrogant and ill informed Jews is why we are being hammered for the last 2000 years. You just cannot see that sadly.

    You are correct, we do put much attention on the Mashiach. It should be secondary. In defence though, the sheeple are afraid of the leaders of both the religious (ultra orthodox) communities and the secular communities. Its now wonder we want to be rid of the mess. We should focus on haShem.

    Vienna Mike, arrogance has been our downfall. HaShem will appoint the leader we need. That’s all I am trying to get through to you. You won’t like him from what I can tell with how your write. HaShem is not wrong in His choice, we are, in expecting the fulfillment of rabbinical opinion (Rambam comes to mind) of which is written down and accessible to all. Rabbinical opinion of many dati leumi rabbis behind closed doors is correct on that fact of who will be the leader in the geulah (which i agree with). I guess you are out of the loop like most who think they know. In the end you will be see. Until then it’s going to be difficult, why, we won’t listen to anyone and those who know are afraid to speak.

    Just a side note. The world is not interested in ridding itself of dati leumi (they are not the center of importance, just part of the movie). Its simply interested in the war against haShem, and His Nation (that’s the secular too). It just so happens the dati leumi are more in the way of the goyims plan.

    Shabbat Shalom

  13. Sassover Says:

    about the above comment trying to explain Jewish history – LOL, we all know who this guy’s “ribi” is – it’s the dude nailed to a stick and this guy claims to be an authority on history or Jewishness… Wow!

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